We know that & it's exactly why TGM was so damn good way back in 2009 when it released, it suspended tabs even back THEN, long before ANY of the Browsers added that functionality.You can also check about:memory and learn why actually loading such amount of tabs into Pale Moon is a terrible idea.
TGM users, especially us older users (used it since release) tend to be power users & were fully aware of those limitations which were much less back in the 32-bit era.
We that still use TGMR, today know the full & extremely convoluted history of this amazing extension, the original developer of TGM (2008) was the very first example of Suspending Tabs AFAIK.
TabGroups Manager by Axel Shootingstar
- TabGroups Manager v2009.03.03.02 Released March 13, 2009 Works with Firefox 3.0 - 3.0.*
- [/b]TabGroups Manager 2011.11.28.1.1-signed.1-signed Released November 28, 2011Works with Firefox 3.6 - 56.*[/b]
Later research, would only reveal that the author was Japanese (No real name known) & went AWOL sometime after the Fukushima Disaster (March 2011).
It's commonly speculated (Discussions not shown on Classic Archives, so this is from my brains RAM (Human memory is notoriously unreliable & prone to data corruption, so not to be relied on as 100% accurate).
Axel was presumed dead (Unconfirmed), when Mozill switched to "Rapid Version numbering increases", we all just increased the version limit higher with an easy text file edit.
After working flawlessly for so many years, it was Mozilla changing to rapid update cycles, that we worked around by changing the "Upto" version.
Eventually we got a Community Fork with strict ("Just keep keep it working") limits, due to closed source licensing issues.
Users only had access to the released XPI files, & it took years to get even this extremely restricted maintenance release on the Addons site.
Eventually Firefox changes started breaking things & the Revived version appeared.
I actually moved to Pale Moon, when it finally broke, but as I had no issues YET with Firefox, switched back when TGM revived, got TGM working again
- TabGroups Manager revived by miguelromero2000, stilez, tabgroupsmanager, ultrafox
- TabGroups Manager revived 2016.02.03.008 (windows) Released February 3, 2016 180.6 KiB Works with Firefox 3.6 - 46.*
- TabGroups Manager revived 2017.06.21.011 Works with Firefox 3.6 - 56.*
Finally as Firefox killed the old Addons foever, & my second migration to Pale Moon we got the 3rd & ONLY release that still functions even on Pale Moon.
Tab Groups Manager reloaded v1.00 Released Jul 11, 2020
By: ThosRTanner
First basilisk/palemoon release
Current release
Tab Groups Manager reloaded v1.01 Released Jul 16, 2020
1st killer features was the ability to suspend Tabs, while they were still available, you could set it up so that only viewed tabs get loaded in the current session.
That's no longer a unique feature, these days though & better ways likely do exist, but that's NOT what keeps me using TGMR even now & TGMR is the ONLY real reason I use Pale Moon at all.
It's the second killer feature THAT I have NEVER seen repeated, TAB GROUPS ARE TABS, we have two Tab bars, top bar is Groups & bottom bar is the TABS inside the ACTIVE group.
With auto hide, & plenty of control over where & how Tabs Work It integrates into Tab Mix Plus seemlessly & despite some minor niggles it's never TGMR causing issues as things changing.
NOTHING matches TGM, or even comes close, never mind improves on it (Believe me, I've tried every single one & nothing comes close to the ease of use that TGM has given me for 14 years.
If I could find another "Tab Grouping manager that used a secondary Tab Bar for grouping (That's Not even possible in "Modern" restrictive browsers AFAIK).
I have no idea how difficult it would be, but I will keep using TGMR & find workarounds, until it stops working forever,
Known Issues that do need some workarounds, seems to be this users issue.
ON Pale Moon launch It no longer auto reloads the last session for me & hasn't done so for years, a very minor niggle, I just need to select the session, from the last of saved sessions.
Most of the issues are again AFAIK, more to do with limitations in saving the data, than core functionality failing.
So given that huge numbers of tabs is sort of the point, the questions a user must ask what do I really need?
It's old written for 32-bit, their are some problematic secondary features, I no longer use.
Hibernate Group, this is useless (Was convenient until it causes the error), if you want to hibernate a group, Bookmark the Group instead. I rarely use Hibernate Any More.
Saved Sessions, these are obviously required, but LIMIT the number, 10 sessions is enough, but have a Manual Backup of your last clean up session *Next point).
Don't get too lazy Use TGMR to get you to a site, save specific pages if you will return, always keep in mind the Database is of limited size, so keep it for Tabs, not huge collections of past data you never actions.
Stop saving Timed backups, or restrict the number saved, those are always a space hog
My entire CPU is using around 3000 MB as I type, Pale Moon is 1% of that Despite my "1000s" of tabs. I only have 4 active right now.
My most excessive RAM usage (I know of because it was recommended to increase Page File to 40 GB) while downloading 1000s of simutaneous mods while extracting & installing (Nexus + Collections, or MO2 + Wabberjack) with many tabs open
Even with that extreme usage, my RAM usage was still under 32BG & I never saw it go over that, My PC DIDN@T access pagefile.
One thing to understand is that "User Support" recommends what makes suoporting users easiest for those providing "User Support", a lowest common denominator method.
Tell everyone they need 40 GB Pagefile, even if that users RAM size negates the need.
I've been hearing "Too many Tabs eat your RAM", for 15 years, because it's lowest common denominator fits all use cases, but that only applies if Tabs are NOT suspended, when they essentially become just Bookmarks.
Not enough RAM can be an issue, but it's not the issue we see when using TGMR, though you get an "Out of Memory error", whicch will cause confusion as here.
In my over 15 years of using the extension, TGM was my chosen tool to mitigate "Too Many Tabs, not enough RAM" NOT cause them, it's always on saving the Database, I get problems, because the database is maxed out, never my RAM.
For the most part All you need is to Stop Hibernating & limit the number saved sessions, but even then it's the backups Database does have a limit, it's that limit that's an issue for me, with over 64 GB of RAM